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		<title>By: APRIL GARDNER</title>
		<link>http://www.popeconomics.com/2010/07/27/should-you-care-if-your-bank-is-unstable/comment-page-1/#comment-1992</link>
		<dc:creator>APRIL GARDNER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The gov&#039;t hasn&#039;t any money to pay to anyone if a bank collapses. The money is printed and devalued. When the system collapses, and it will, it will be signaled by hyperinflation (already begun) and then followed by a &quot;Bank Holiday&quot;. You have to be a bonafide creton to think your money is &quot;insured&quot;. When the &quot;Holiday&quot; is instituted, by the FED/Federal Gov&#039;t, you will be given perhaps 1 dollar for every 4 deposited. It may also be an laternate currency. Go to the grocery store, invest in canned vegetables. They have skyrocketed 33% in 6 months. This is a better investment...and it is safe in your pantry.  Another good investment would be booze because once the system implodes, and it will a lot sooner than you think, everyone will want to get drunk to escape the horror of what will occur in our society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gov&#8217;t hasn&#8217;t any money to pay to anyone if a bank collapses. The money is printed and devalued. When the system collapses, and it will, it will be signaled by hyperinflation (already begun) and then followed by a &#8220;Bank Holiday&#8221;. You have to be a bonafide creton to think your money is &#8220;insured&#8221;. When the &#8220;Holiday&#8221; is instituted, by the FED/Federal Gov&#8217;t, you will be given perhaps 1 dollar for every 4 deposited. It may also be an laternate currency. Go to the grocery store, invest in canned vegetables. They have skyrocketed 33% in 6 months. This is a better investment&#8230;and it is safe in your pantry.  Another good investment would be booze because once the system implodes, and it will a lot sooner than you think, everyone will want to get drunk to escape the horror of what will occur in our society.</p>
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		<title>By: K Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>K Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 09:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle,
Your bank does not suddenly become insolvent and get shut down. The FDIC works from its own a &quot;watch list&quot; of shaky institutions. Your bank may in fact be insolvent as I am typing this, but before it is officially declared insolvent, the FDIC convinces another bank to &quot;assume&quot; its deposits and healthy assets. This means that on a Friday your account will be held by First National Bank of Insolvency, and the following Monday you read online that your bank is now Zombie National Bank (the FDIC conducts these switcheroos over the weekend).

Your money is still in your account, so it is accessible with your debit card. You can walk in or log on or call and transact business as usual. The employees of the former bank are now employees of the new bank. A temporary sign with the name of the new bank will be put up over the old sign until a permanent one can be installed.

The thing that concerns me is not what happens in the event of an insolvency - it is any bank&#039;s obligation to give me my cash even if the bank is not declared insolvent. Earlier this year Citibank sent its deposit customers a notice saying they can wait 7 days from the day you ask before giving you any money in your checking account. Many have questioned the legality of this policy, which turns demand deposits into time deposits - a checking account in effect becomes a CD. If they can do this, what is to stop them from deciding the delay will be 14 days, or 21 days, or 6 months?

And in the event of a threatened run on a money market mutual fund, new SEC rules permit these funds to suspend redemption. This means if the economy slides into a panic, access to your money could be blocked indefinitely.

The mattress is looking better and better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle,<br />
Your bank does not suddenly become insolvent and get shut down. The FDIC works from its own a &#8220;watch list&#8221; of shaky institutions. Your bank may in fact be insolvent as I am typing this, but before it is officially declared insolvent, the FDIC convinces another bank to &#8220;assume&#8221; its deposits and healthy assets. This means that on a Friday your account will be held by First National Bank of Insolvency, and the following Monday you read online that your bank is now Zombie National Bank (the FDIC conducts these switcheroos over the weekend).</p>
<p>Your money is still in your account, so it is accessible with your debit card. You can walk in or log on or call and transact business as usual. The employees of the former bank are now employees of the new bank. A temporary sign with the name of the new bank will be put up over the old sign until a permanent one can be installed.</p>
<p>The thing that concerns me is not what happens in the event of an insolvency &#8211; it is any bank&#8217;s obligation to give me my cash even if the bank is not declared insolvent. Earlier this year Citibank sent its deposit customers a notice saying they can wait 7 days from the day you ask before giving you any money in your checking account. Many have questioned the legality of this policy, which turns demand deposits into time deposits &#8211; a checking account in effect becomes a CD. If they can do this, what is to stop them from deciding the delay will be 14 days, or 21 days, or 6 months?</p>
<p>And in the event of a threatened run on a money market mutual fund, new SEC rules permit these funds to suspend redemption. This means if the economy slides into a panic, access to your money could be blocked indefinitely.</p>
<p>The mattress is looking better and better.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie Sue Ambrosino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie Sue Ambrosino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SIPC, severely underfunded from years of charging its broker/dealers only $150 per year does not have enough funds to pay the Madoff victims. This fact was confirmed in July 2009 by Mary Schapiro, chairman of the SEC. So, the Trustee assigned to the case, Mr. Picard needed to do some creative accounting in order to preserve the SIPC funds, which is totally outside the Federal Mandate.

As a result, thousands of victims are being robbed of their SIPC protection.  

The Madoff victims, while continuing to fight for their due justice are also concerned with ensuring that all American investors are aware of the fact that promise of SIPC insurance is indeed a farce and a facade.

Historically, SIPC has prospered more than the victims in the cases they have handled.

Ronnie Sue Ambrosino
Coordinator
Madoff Victims Coalition</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SIPC, severely underfunded from years of charging its broker/dealers only $150 per year does not have enough funds to pay the Madoff victims. This fact was confirmed in July 2009 by Mary Schapiro, chairman of the SEC. So, the Trustee assigned to the case, Mr. Picard needed to do some creative accounting in order to preserve the SIPC funds, which is totally outside the Federal Mandate.</p>
<p>As a result, thousands of victims are being robbed of their SIPC protection.  </p>
<p>The Madoff victims, while continuing to fight for their due justice are also concerned with ensuring that all American investors are aware of the fact that promise of SIPC insurance is indeed a farce and a facade.</p>
<p>Historically, SIPC has prospered more than the victims in the cases they have handled.</p>
<p>Ronnie Sue Ambrosino<br />
Coordinator<br />
Madoff Victims Coalition</p>
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		<title>By: K Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>K Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Fed has announced it is considering eliminating the reserve requirement. If there is no reserve requirement, it doesn&#039;t matter whether banks are insolvent or not. The FDIC insurance pool becomes irrelevant.

Regulators will chose which institutions live and which ones die. Looming commercial real estate defaults will be used to justify the shuttering of community and regional banks nationwide. The FDIC will supervise their orderly dissolution, making all depositors whole. I believe this will be hailed by regulators, politicians, and the financial press as a good thing - fewer institutions to police. I wonder which institutions will be permitted to survive? Hmmm...

I think JP Morgan Chase will be one of the chosen survivors. In my community they are building new freestanding branches at just about every major intersection. The fix is in.

Methinks we are in store for a handful of mega-banks. With solvency a non-issue, the fear of bank failures is eliminated. But with no reserve requirement, banks will not need to attract deposits by paying interest. Instead of paying depositors to park money in the bank, banks will charge fees to handle cash. Then the case will be made to completely eliminate cash from the banking system.

Ain&#039;t banking wonderful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fed has announced it is considering eliminating the reserve requirement. If there is no reserve requirement, it doesn&#8217;t matter whether banks are insolvent or not. The FDIC insurance pool becomes irrelevant.</p>
<p>Regulators will chose which institutions live and which ones die. Looming commercial real estate defaults will be used to justify the shuttering of community and regional banks nationwide. The FDIC will supervise their orderly dissolution, making all depositors whole. I believe this will be hailed by regulators, politicians, and the financial press as a good thing &#8211; fewer institutions to police. I wonder which institutions will be permitted to survive? Hmmm&#8230;</p>
<p>I think JP Morgan Chase will be one of the chosen survivors. In my community they are building new freestanding branches at just about every major intersection. The fix is in.</p>
<p>Methinks we are in store for a handful of mega-banks. With solvency a non-issue, the fear of bank failures is eliminated. But with no reserve requirement, banks will not need to attract deposits by paying interest. Instead of paying depositors to park money in the bank, banks will charge fees to handle cash. Then the case will be made to completely eliminate cash from the banking system.</p>
<p>Ain&#8217;t banking wonderful!</p>
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		<title>By: Pop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@patrick Hey! Thanks for your comment. Here&#039;s my take on that.

The federal government wouldn&#039;t allow the FDIC to fail, because it would cause widespread financial panic, not only here but across the globe. So, I guess if you&#039;re going to be worried about anything, it should be the stability of the U.S. government as a whole, and since your bank money is denominated in dollars, I don&#039;t see how the U.S. would be in a situation where it couldn&#039;t just create more money to pay you in a worst-case scenario.

But even if you&#039;re worried about that extreme solution, I&#039;m not sure diversifying into foreign banks makes sense. Is there a scenario where the U.S. financial system could collapse and another banking system could survive? Not sure, maybe if it was in a third-world economy disconnected from the U.S. economy. But &lt;em&gt;even then&lt;/em&gt;, the chances of a third world banking system collapsing is very real and happens frequently in good times.

All that&#039;s to say that diversifying into foreign banks for &quot;safety&quot; doesn&#039;t make much sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@patrick Hey! Thanks for your comment. Here&#8217;s my take on that.</p>
<p>The federal government wouldn&#8217;t allow the FDIC to fail, because it would cause widespread financial panic, not only here but across the globe. So, I guess if you&#8217;re going to be worried about anything, it should be the stability of the U.S. government as a whole, and since your bank money is denominated in dollars, I don&#8217;t see how the U.S. would be in a situation where it couldn&#8217;t just create more money to pay you in a worst-case scenario.</p>
<p>But even if you&#8217;re worried about that extreme solution, I&#8217;m not sure diversifying into foreign banks makes sense. Is there a scenario where the U.S. financial system could collapse and another banking system could survive? Not sure, maybe if it was in a third-world economy disconnected from the U.S. economy. But <em>even then</em>, the chances of a third world banking system collapsing is very real and happens frequently in good times.</p>
<p>All that&#8217;s to say that diversifying into foreign banks for &#8220;safety&#8221; doesn&#8217;t make much sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have you looked into the stability of the FDIC? it doesn&#039;t have enough money to cover all the banks or even a majority of banks if they collapse. even though it sounds good that the US government is backing up the banks, the FDIC is not really able to do so if everything fails. If you really want to secure your money, you should not only diversify amongst US banks but you should consider banks in another country as well, to protect against the FDIC failing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have you looked into the stability of the FDIC? it doesn&#8217;t have enough money to cover all the banks or even a majority of banks if they collapse. even though it sounds good that the US government is backing up the banks, the FDIC is not really able to do so if everything fails. If you really want to secure your money, you should not only diversify amongst US banks but you should consider banks in another country as well, to protect against the FDIC failing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point about bank runs. In general, I think it&#039;s silly in the FDIC era to be rushing to the bank because you&#039;re concerned about losing the money you&#039;ve deposited. There&#039;s just one detail I&#039;m curious about. How long does it take to get your money back if a bank collapses? 

If you don&#039;t have cash in your wallet, losing the ability to get your money out of the bank for just a couple days could be devastating. I rely almost entirely on my debit card. What would I have to do if my bank collapses? I don&#039;t own a credit card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point about bank runs. In general, I think it&#8217;s silly in the FDIC era to be rushing to the bank because you&#8217;re concerned about losing the money you&#8217;ve deposited. There&#8217;s just one detail I&#8217;m curious about. How long does it take to get your money back if a bank collapses? </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t have cash in your wallet, losing the ability to get your money out of the bank for just a couple days could be devastating. I rely almost entirely on my debit card. What would I have to do if my bank collapses? I don&#8217;t own a credit card.</p>
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